@humanetech Almost all Android devices, regardless of manufacturer, obtained through the usual retailers are a #SurveillanceCapitalism out of the box experience.

The foldable phones don't appeal to me. Despite the claims, I expect that the fold will become brittle and break. But manufacturers only really want the hardware to last a couple of years and then its on to the next new shiny model. But the more conventional clam shell or keyboard phone designs would be nice to try.

@bob
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> Almost all Android devices, regardless of manufacturer, obtained through the usual retailers are a #SurveillanceCapitalism out of the box experience.

I expect that is true. But I need a new phone, and want at least a replaceable battery and also need wifi calling (we have no cell signal).

I'm attracted to the newer open-hardware phones but have not researched them enuf yet.

@zabbeer
Yes, Fairphone is one of the options I am looking at. Do you know anything about what cell services they work with and if they can do wifi calls? Those are my next aspects to look into.

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@bhaugen @zabbeer @bob @humanetech@mastodon.social @Fairphone
When you say wifi calls, do you mean your (phone number) provider's native service (VoWi-Fi) or some other VoIP usage?

@keith
I mean my phone number provider's voice-over-wifi service.

Republic Wireless provided their own software for doing this for some years, altho I understand that the newer phones can do it on their own.

But I don't understand the technology very well. I was introduced to wifi calling by some neighbors who got into it first to bypass our bad cell service.

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@bhaugen @zabbeer @bob @humanetech@mastodon.social @Fairphone

Voice-over-WiFi or "wifi calling" is basically and hyped-up term for (which is also the basis of VoLTE)
VoWiFi and VoLTE both use slightly "enhanced" versions of VoIP protocols to communicate with the core network. It's just that with VoLTE, the traffic is via the IP connection on the mobile Radio Access Network (cell tower) (with some QoS assurances) where as with VoWiFI it is using your internet to reach the core network.

@keith
Thanks. Since we have no cell tower access, we must be using VoWiFI...

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