@avoca @keith Delta is really great.

I have to use many different messaging apps in my work, which is to support frontliners in the human rights and enviro defense spaces. 95%(?) use Signal, most could care less about tech, oft express platform fatigue (esp the older among them). They just want to be where everyone else is, to not think about it, and feel a bit safer. So Signal it is.

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@JulianOliver @avoca@gladtech.social

Because of this thread, and pondering that time gone by when I myself was struggling to try to get people to use less data-leaky platforms. including, yes ; I just watched:

media.ccc.de/v/mch2022-196-sig

In response to moxie's whining about LibreSignal (remember that?) using Signal's oh so expensive and difficult to run servers, @rysiek asks the audience:

"Who here has pushed, talked, conversed, suggested, etc people to use Signal?" [ raises own hand, audience not visible ]

"And how much work was this?" [ nods, gives impression audience are in agreement with rhetorical question ]

"Who here was paid by SIgnal to do this?"
[ audience recognition and applause ]

So yeah.. Signal it is, but there was a time that it wasn't. We all worked to make that happen. Next time, and there will be a next time, I hope at least, we will have learned from these mistakes.

Julian says a LOT of very valid things is these discussions. I myself am hatching educational projects around building community networks (real ones, not bullshit facebook gatways that the NGO sector currently promotes as CN).

One thing is for sure, I will NEVER promote centralised services again.

@keith @JulianOliver @avoca yeah, I also started promoting @delta more recently. It's in our power to move people over to better tools.

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