Keith Whyte @keith@tic-ac.org

@ikuturso
Yes! THIS point: "Not everyone cares to chase the numbers".

It remains to be seen if a decentralised federated "social" network can accommodate both number chasers and.. um what could one call the others... Maybe put it in terms of quantity vs quality?

Numbers, likes, follows, boosts, re-whatever, i am still not convinced there is much value in it, apart from the value as the addictive behaviour modifiers they were designed to be.

Not even for artists, musicians or others looking for "exposure". I come from a time when we wrote, drew, printed and photocopied flyers and handed them out in bars. I recorded many demos and saw many bands and musicians come and go. I saw many extremely talented writers and players go unnoticed.

It is not better now with "social" media and likes, follows. I believe it is worse. Jaron Lanier, for what it is worth, wrote a lot about this.

@transicorn @homegrown

@transicorn

It is interesting that you are confident you don't have to worry about it shutting down. It'll be interesting also to see how that plays out. I'm not making any prediction nor suggesting a preference, just saying.. Nothing is for sure. Time will tell.

If not shutdown, another scenario is it gets bought out, or just somehow becomes de-facto financially controlled by some entity that causes a severe de-federation. Then you won't be sharing your music with #fedi, you'll be sharing it with mastodon.social.

@homegrown

@homegrown

I'd tend towards expressing that 28.7% is already sufficient to stop recommending mastodon.social, or any other big* server; that's too high a concentration for a decentralised network.

I'd therefore turn around and positively NOT recommend mastodon.social at this point. Obviously, nothing against mastodon.social or it's people, but for the general health of the network, (and for humanity!) Waiting until 40% would be too late.

I would not be so worried to establish at this time any hard percentages for limits or de-federation, I'd just hope that a campaign for conscientious of the reasons why not to join mastodon.social, the importance of small servers, and many of them, would be enough, and then deal with the other scenario if we ever get there, hopefully not.

* I'll admit I have an ideal about #fediverse servers, which is that the "community" of users on a server should reflect a #community that shares a reasonably close connection in some sense, AFK, IRL or whatever way you want to say #offline. This in itself should limit numbers, without having to explicitly place those limits.

Of course I accept other people have other valid notions and do not share this idea, so some larger servers may work too.