Keith Whyte @keith@tic-ac.org

@dk
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Monthly home internet line rental, prepay mobile packages of x GB etc. This is all sold, and it's HUGE. It leads somewhat to "Who cares what the content is as long as I can ship it on my wires and charge for that"
It would seem this was an integral part of the strategy to extract value from the internet.

However, I do not have hard data on a comparison between "profit" from advertising and that from selling pure bytes on the wire.

Does anybody else have any insight?

"The problem isn’t the #internet itself, but the fact that the most popular digital spaces are managed by private enterprises"

https://lab.cccb.org/en/no-thoughts-head-empty-would-digital-disconnection-be-a-utopia/

@danyork
Now, you could just take all that as meaning that there is still an awful lot of work to be done, and you'd be right!

So not giving up yet. 😃

@danyork
I think we can agree on the vision, the goals, the dream maybe, but In my experience, and this makes me very sad, but almost nobody in the ACTUAL real-world communities I work with has ever asked for fediverse, local content, etc. whatsapp is the main thing.
I did a presentation on fediverse, almost nobody came, I setup a mastodon server, nobody signed up. I setup nextcloud but our own #communitynetworks promoting sister orgas continue on gmail and 💩 gle docs. It's all talk.

@danyork
More #IXPs is great! Bring it on! In the amercias south of the US border this situation is not good.

I've sort of lost patience with the #communitynetworks narrative. The only place from where I can approach that conversation now, is one that firmly places the #internet as a corporate/telco $$$ and state #propaganda (think hollywood x 1000) project. From there we can actually talk about why that happened and how to combat it. Otherwise, you're just bringing clients to fcbck,

@danyork
Oh!, I see, you're actually talking about an entire LEO constellation and teleport(s), launched and maintained by somebody other than spaceX or the other usual suspects! Well.. I'd guess that's a nation state gig if it were not fully corporate. I kind of can't bring myself to be content with LEO, I don't have hard facts, just a bad gut feeling about it. So I'm happy for the corporates to do that for the moment, while one builds something autonomous.

@danyork
I'm all the time more convinced that the solution to the "digital divide" involves decentralisation and bringing the digital content closer to those who use it - both geographically and culturally - But that flies in the face of the up-to-now extractive business model of the entire internet, so I wouldn't expect ISOC to be thinking about that either, (yet) ?

@kingannoy
They will have been aware of this problem since many years ago. They don't' care and they can't (won't) fix it. Keeping the timezone database up to date was simply not contemplated in Android, and the files that need to be updates are "protected" by the same "protections" that stop you disabling surveillance systems and other undesirable software that you are obliged to run on the device. If you want to fix it, you'll probably have to get a new phone.

Of course, as expected the so-called "social" networks are full of #AMLO haters taking advantage of their own ignorance and the situation to blame this on the government. 🙄

This morning in #Mexico many #Android phones will be confusing people by showing the wrong #time. We no longer have #DST, but updating the #tzdata timezone database on most older devices is almost impossible.

Don't worry, just buy a new device. It's easy, Just throw all that silly old #lithium, #manganese, #tellurium, #tungsten and #cobalt in the landfill.
And all for a locked #bootloader.

An example of 💩 gle and the phone manufacturing industry being #evil.

#ANNOYED - by google.